I have had enough of Amy Schumer for awhile. My quota has been met, and that quota is very small. I heard her on Joe Rogan’s podcast. I heard about her shaming of a teen movie critic (more on that in a second). And this week I saw her in the Trainwreck movie she wrote and starred in. That’s enough for me. Three things, three times pissed off. I won’t even touch on the joke stealing controversy, and will try not to comment on her plain Janeness (but feel free to make your own opinion).
You all know that I’m no prude. I’ve very open minded in societal things, and really like dark, perverted, and rauncy comedy. I’ve seen Anthony Jeselnik (Amy Schumer’s ex-boyfriend) several times in person and think he’s great. Amy, while raunchy, doesn’t hit my funnybone much at all. And despite this, she’s become one of, if not the, highest paid and highest profile woman in comedy today (getting paid an alleged $9 million advance for an upcoming book).
I classify myself as a manosphere writer with traditional family values. I’m all for equal rights and gender equality, but today that pendulum has swung way too far in the other direction. The SJW’s, media, feminists, educational system, and politicians aren’t for equal rights, they are about women empowerment at the expense of men’s rights. While I don’t write about my thoughts on this subject much here, I have written about it in my book and is a consistent message here in the sphere, even among those who like and respect women. It’s sad that anyone who pushes against women’s EMPOWERMENT (not equality, but empowering women over men) is labeled sexist, rapist, a misogynist, or women hater ad nauseum. Matt Forney knows what I’m talking about, as he rails against this every day being a lightning rod for SJWs and feminazis. I’m digressing slightly here, but I thought it necessary to touch on my vantage point before I went forward with my assessment of Schumer.
So up until about a month ago, I’ve never seen anything Amy Schumer has done. I never watched last comic standing. I never saw her show on whatever cable channel that is on since we cut the cable long ago. I never saw any of her standup. I knew she dated Jeselnik and had heard good things about her movie Trainwreck (directed by Apatow whose movies and shows I usually enjoy) so was excited to start to delve into her work. While I don’t find most women comics very funny, there are a few exceptions I have liked over the years like Whitney Cummings and Sarah Silverman (it’s a short list).
From the start I was underwhelmed with Schumer. I first listened to her on an old Joe Rogan podcast. He is always a respectful host, willing to engage in discussion with guests who disagreed with his principles or vantage point allowing them to share their viewpoints. As you know, I’m a Joe Rogan fan and subscribe to his overall life philosophies, and find him on-point on most subjects. He gave a lot of credit to Amy’s success in the interview, but they got into disagreements on various social/gender issues (and comedians) and you could tell that Amy was salty and carried a huge chip on her shoulder being a woman in comedy. She held it in check very well, but you could tell she was bitter about gender issues in her field of practice. And she wasn’t funny at all during the interview. “Hmmm,” I thought “maybe she isn’t everything people (especially women) make her out to be.” Strike One.
In and around this time, I’ve seen various media stuff she had done, including the topless pic at the top of this post, and read various tweets generally along the lines of “If you don’t like my body, fuck you, I’m happy with it.” Fine. Women’s body issues are inherently difficult to manage for them. But you could tell she was both insecure and narcissistic in her desire to show off her frumpy, average body and get validation from feminists (men and women alike) who would applaud her for “being so brave,” giving her all the “you go girls” she could handle. This too didn’t sit too well with me. Shaming people (men) for not liking fattish bodies like hers, and not understanding liking fit, attractive, young bodies is more biological than societal is a major blindspot for her and a lot of women who shame men for liking attractive women.
Just this week, I heard about Schumer’s trip on the red carpet for the Critic Choice awards. It’s no secret she’s made her living being a raunchy comic, talking a lot about how she’s a big slut. Whether those things are true or not doesn’t really matter. If you would believe her on Rogan, she really isn’t that big of slut (I may beg to differ) and just had some funny sexual experiences while she was out of longer term relationships. Whatever. More to the point though, she’s built this reputation, which she has embraced, on this very premise. People like to laugh at bad sexual adventures, me included, but her and many other Girls (HBO show) or Lena Dunham fans take that to mean men like slutty women. That’s the sale fourth wave feminists are trying to make to the next generation. While beta-bux may settle with this type of women, most men find this behavior appalling (unless they are the ones partaking in the benefits of that slutdom), despite what fourth wave feminists would have you believe about this “sexually liberated behavior.” Women like Schumer (along with podcasters Korine Fisher and Krystyna Hutchinson [an aside – nice name, not “Christina” but Krystyna] on Guys we Fucked) who celebrate slutdom are disgusting to me. They are occasionally entertaining to watch or listen to, much in the way a car crash is gravitating, but a self-respecting man wouldn’t want to ever be with one of those types of women long-term, much less in a marriage.
And rather than laughing at the joke, she called him and tried to blow him out of the water. The kid totally capitulated and apologized profusely. I get it, bow to the SJW’s and maybe you’ll make it big one day – bland is today’s brand if you want to make it in media.
Totally ironic that only at this point was she trying to go against the brand she created. It’s ok for her to call herself a slut, but not ok for anyone else to call her on it? Ohhh Kayy. It’s called having a sense of humor and having the ability to laugh at yourself. Why not volley an equally off-color joke back at the kid? While a few in the media said Schumer can’t take a joke, most (like usual suspects MTV, Time, Huff Post, Variety) piled on the kid, not seeing that Schumer invites such jokes by her brand of humor. Someone like Mike Cernovich would have fucking tore Schumer apart like he did with Seth Rogen. In my unofficial interwebs evaluation on the issue, like is normal, the media doesn’t represent the opinion of the masses. Many forums or other commentary also tore Schumer apart for her thin skinned response. It certainly appears the blush is off the rose for some. Strike Two.
Finally, Holly and I got around to renting the movie Trainwreck this week. It starred Schumer as a slutty, alcoholic, plain Jane who gets a nice high-profile doctor to fall in love with her because she spread her legs. They should have called the movie “The Feminist Fairytale” because it’s what every woman like Schumer or the Guys we Fucked girls dreams about. Alpha Fucks and Beta Bucks. The screenplay was a Schumer brainchild, who also helped produce this. My thoughts on Apatow (as director/producer) is that he’s a male feminist (never saw Lena Dunham’s Girls HBO show, but hear that’s an Apatow production too). More to the point though, the movie was pretty boring and wasn’t very funny. There were a few laugh-out-loud moments and lines, but when the funniest person in the movie is Lebron James (followed by John Cena), you’re probably in trouble. In no way did I ever believe the doctor (played by Bill Hader) could find connection or fall in love with Schumer’s character. She was awful, and in some way a representation of Amy herself having come out of her brain (most fiction can be traced back to our own autobiographical dreams and desires). Apatow has a pretty good tradition in his last few movies of making characters you don’t like very much (Adam Sandler in Funny People, even Paul Rudd and Apatow’s real-life wife Leslie Man in This Is 40 are very flawed people), and he continues it with this Schumer written piece. Check out the Amazon 1-Star reviews on the movie (over 20% of reviewers) and you’ll see many who agree on my assessment of the movie. Strike Three.
So I know Amy Schumer is the “it” girl right now, but my experiences, albeit brief and limited, are that she’s more an example of an anti-role model for women and girls. I could sit my daughter down in front of this movie in a few years and say
“See how the main character behaves? That’s how feminists and society and University are teaching women to behave and act. See how she never even apologizes for her awful behavior? See how she’s slutty and sowing her oats? That’s the opposite of good behavior if you want to have a healthy relationship. Every person you sleep with lowers your value to quality men, brings baggage into your relationship, and makes it more likely you won’t be able to be happy long-term in that relationship. And do you see how she doesn’t take care of herself? She’s fat and out of shape and doesn’t eat healthy and works in a caustic work environment? Keep that in mind as you grow up and work towards a healthy life and decide what are priorities for you.”
Amy is arguably funny, but the social message and platform she is on is one I don’t agree with. Now maybe Amy grows up and changes her colors, but I think her bitterness and shoulder chip will continue to drive her on the path she is now, which is one that I won’t be celebrating.